well made trunks but too wide
I had a hard time finding simple short trunks at a decent price and these are great. My one gripe is that on the smaller end of the spectrum 29-31, the girth of the leg holes is proportionally too big. If you have this slim of a waistline, you're not going to have beefcake thighs. It seems they just used the same girth as the larger sizes. Bottom line, it's not a modern fit from the crotch down.