first lets start off with a round of applause for the crazy fast ninja certified shipping you get with BONOBOS: ordered it 6.30 am shipping confirmation received at 8am... no words can explain the look on my face when i saw that email that quickly. single handedly ruined shopping experiences anywhere else online since they can't even hold a candle in comparison. now to the shoes. love the shape, very sleek not bulky, light weight, yet seemingly rugged(haven't worn them yet so will have to update that). at the same time when you put them on they look like proper boots not some euro design etc etc. only one problem with these is that it has unlined uppers which pulls your sock tight murdering your toes, use of a shoe horn should help with that hopefully. thank you bonobos staff bonuses all around this Christmas.!!!!!!!